If you arbitrarily assign 3 to knight and bishop, then a rook worth 5 seems very reasonable. And I think endgame two rooks are slightly better than 1 queen (10 vs 9).
So in endgame if it's 1 queen vs 2 rooks, and there are some pawns on the board, then the 2 rooks can mate or capture defended pawns. While the queen can't force it as easily.
Learning the Queen vs Rook mate is really interesting. Shows how strong the rook is.
@Sarg0n said in #9:
> It‘s an average value. A Queen would win easy against 8 pawns in their home position.
As I said the method (I talked of) gives very rough estimate but it actually depends on position.
value is relative to the position , but all things being equal 9 seems about right
The queen gets an extra pawn's worth of value because the fact that it combines rook + bishop in one gives it more efficiency for things like double attacks. However, it's also true that those two pieces can have the advantage in situations where they can attack something twice (and the queen can only defend once). In practice though the queen's double-attack possibilities generally trump the two pieces'.
The shorter the time the stronger the gap will become. Because it’s easier to work with strong pieces and intrinsic coordination.
Maybe the queen should be worth eight but only if a rook is worth four as I think they are overrated slightly they are not that good to deserve two more than bishops xxx just my thought xxx SchizoSi xxx
@sparowe14 I didn't say any of that. I asked a question. I don't think the idea of asking questions should be bad thing and definitely should not be a reason for you try flex your assumed superiority.
I asked a simple question, I didnt say they anything like they were "plucked from think air"
I acknowledged that I was likely missing the point, hence ASKING the question.
Think!
Is a Pawn worth a Rook?
The answer is relative (not absolute) it depends on a concrete assessment of position.
@GiGGidi I did not mean to offend you, and certainly not to project any superiority. Answering your question, as I saw it. You did a bit more than ask a question, you said the queen's value didn't seem to be correct, but what the hey. Your post did appear to me to be "trolling," as they say nowadays: bringing up an idle and insignificant subject merely to provoke discussion, sort of like 'why is the sky blue?' I was trying to provide a succinct answer. No disrespect intended. All power to curiosity and questioning authority.
A queen is equal to that of a rook,bishop and pawn,
so whatever the value is for all three pieces combined,
that is what the queen will equal
5+3+1=9
